These are the BEST ribs. I think the fact that you use an awesome dry rub and make homemade BBQ sauce is a factor. I am posting the BBQ sauce separately (all recipes from Cheryl and Bill Jamison's book, "Smoke and Spice", a James Beard award winning cookbook). Try these! You won't regret it. I use the dry rub for so much more than just these ribs...great for gift giving in holiday baskets also...the rub is incredible.