Daddy was the baker in our house. He was most fond of pie, but just couldn't make a descent crust to save him, until he found this recipe in either a Betty Cocker or Better Homes and Gardens cookbook. I don't know which (this was forty-five some years ago). I have looked on Zaar for a recipe like this - and while they are similar they aren't Daddy's. Word to the wise - roll the dough out between two pieces of wax paper - the only way. Do not double the recipe for two crusts - just doesn't work. I make one crust at a time and store in the fridge while making the next. We are crust fiends in our house - so I always make a thicker crust then this recipe produces. I make three portions of this recipes for a two crust pie (1 and 1/2 per crust). Prep time includes cooling time. Cooking times depends on for what you are using the crust. Patience Grasshooper - it will be worth it.