I am posting this for the ZWT 2006. The recipe calls for extra finely ground beef. Ask your butcher or the meat department to run the beef through the grinder one or two extra times. It makes a difference in the recipe - the meat will be smooth and soft. It is best to cook these on flat skewers, not round. They can be baked in the oven or on the grill. This is thanks to the About Web site.