Thank you, Cousin Jack! The original recipe specified one full cup of orange juice *or* 1 cup cold water with 2 teaspoons fruit vinegar. I also tested the recipe with two cups of unbleached flour and 1 cup whole wheat flour. Use your favorite fillings, for ex: traditional pasties with beef , carrots and turnips or rutabagas, Greek, Italian, Mexican, etc. The delicious filling I tried here: the leftovers from Recipe #219680 and I broke up the meat into small pieces. The pasties also included some leftover roasted pink and yellow turnips from our local farmer's market and also a few very small red beet;- all roasted then diced. Makes 8 large pasties or 16 small pasties.