I haven't tried these yet but can't wait to. Found the recipe on another site its from Sovan Boun Thuy, owner Chez Sovan. Ginger can be substituted for galangal if you cant find it. Time does not include the 3 hr marinade. Just a note, i would not omit the kiwi because it has a tenderising effect on meat and will add a subtle flavor that doesnt disturb even if it is not your favorite fruit.