From the Camellia brand red beans company- from right off the side of the package. The way they make 'em in Louisiana- in and out of New Orleans. The original printed recipe states to use "ham or seasoning meat." I've listed the smoked sausage my husband likes to use. Camellia brand red beans can be found on grocery shelves all over Louisiana, but try this recipe with whatever dried red beans you can find; it won't disappoint. Definitely serve over white rice (Zatarain's if you're local). Enjoy!