These were very good, with a very good flavor, they were not the thick, chewy, soft philly-type pretzels I was hoping for. However, the two people I shared them with thought they were fabulous and they loved the crispy texture of the outside crust. I found they did not rise all that much though, and I suggest watching the cooking time. The suggested time was too long for my oven, and I had to cut down about 3 minutes on the time. Also, they got very soggy very quickly, but a couple of minutes in the toaster perked them right up to the just-baked texture.