This is a great recipe. I guess my brisket was quite lean because there was no fat to skim. I didn't add carrots because 1. I didn't want to cook them that long & 2. I made a separate recipe for carrots ;). When making the gravy, I didn't strain the pan juices or add garlic (the garlic from the roasting pan wasn't strained out). YUM. My only complaint was it was too salty. Maybe I should have added more water to teh pan? or not seasoned the beef with so much salt at the beginning? Maybe I'll skip into Brooklyn & visit Junior's...bring home a cheesecake...go to Sahadi's while I'm there... I made this for PAC 9/06. Thanks, bmxmomto4!