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I used only water in place of the beef stock on this one as I find the French onion soup mix to be a bit salty sometimes. I cooked mine for a lot longer than stated because I wanted to shred the meat and use in a toasted roll along with the gravy. After cooking I removed the meat and let the gravy cool so I could skim the the small about of fat from the top before heating and thickening slightly. The gravy was fab and the recipe a nice introduction to the crock pot.