I made this w/o the meat and it was extremely spicy. And I used the mild version of RoTel tomatoes/chiles. I didn't add any cheese or sour cream, which might have helped cut the heat. As it was, it was like eating a really soupy salsa. Next time I'd add meat and cheese and maybe an additional can of black beans (drained and possibly mashed up a little) to thicken it up.