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    removing public recipe

    Linky
    Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:59 am
    Food.com Groupie
    I believe I cannot remove a public recipe that I published.

    But, can I edit a recipe? I found a recipe online that I'd been wanting so I published it. According to the copyright info, a recipe itself is not copyrightable as it is a list of ingredients. I did not credit the person by name, but did say I had gotten it from another source.

    I got a very unhappy zmail today from her. I told her I'd remove it, not realizing that I can't. Can I at least edit it?

    I don't want to be "kicked off" of zaar!

    thanks

    Read more: http://www.food.com/bb/posting.zsp?mode=reply&t=391163&oc=linkback
    Zeldaz
    Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:30 am
    Food.com Groupie
    You can submit a correction or edit any of your recipes by using the link on the recipe page. If there is a copyright issue, the staff can help you remove it. Most bloggers are happy if you credit them fully and accurately, though, as it can attract more people to their blog.

    Look under "Manage This Recipe" and click on "Submit a Correction" and you can make any necessary changes.


    Last edited by Zeldaz on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:40 pm, edited 1 time in total
    MoiFrey
    Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:55 am
    Newbie "Fry Cook" Poster
    I am the person who requested the removal. I would be happy with an attribution and a link to my blog. Since I have no intention of posting it here (since it's already posted on my blog) it's okay if Linky leaves it there. Just so long as I get the credit (that recipe was the result of years of experimentation).
    Zeldaz
    Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:39 pm
    Food.com Groupie
    Hi, MoiFrey! That's kind of you to let her know, it looks like it will be easily resolved. You might also want to post a link to your blog on your About Me page here, so others can locate it.
    Blog and website links are welcome on the personal pages, but you won't be able to place links to your own in forum posts, if you participate in forum activity. There are lots of spammers who do that, so it's a bit of a problem.
    Looking forward to seeing your blog, going to search for it now.
    ETA: Took a little doing, but I managed to find it! Googling "MoiFrey" brought up all sorts of stuff not related to what I wanted.

    Just so you know, staff are not here on weekends, but will be in on Monday, if you need to contact them.
    MoiFrey
    Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:10 pm
    Newbie "Fry Cook" Poster
    Thanks, Zeldaz. I have updated my profile to include my blog address. Thanks for being persistent to search for it. I have also been trying to update my profile with the same avatar I have on that blog. I'd love your opinion: Is that photo obscene or lewd? Food.com is telling me it removed it because it violates Terms of Service. ?!? I'm puzzled. Who have they got reviewing that stuff? I can't believe someone is finding it obscene. Must have a gutter mind, LOL!

    I'll have to google moifrey. I'm curious now. Maybe my other blog?

    Thanks for your info and, as I've recently revived the food blog, I hope you'll come by from time to time and leave comments, once I start publishing recipes again.
    Zeldaz
    Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:11 pm
    Food.com Groupie
    Hmm, it's not obscene, but it could be construed by some as being suggestive. I can't speak for the powers that be, but I think they probably feel they have to err on the side of conservatism, because there HAVE been complaints about some pretty mild stuff in the past (think family photos of shirtless children, for example). They probably want to avoid another potential tempest in a teapot!
    I found your blog by Googling "moifrey blog", it narrowed down the field better.
    duonyte
    Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:45 pm
    Forum Host
    Hi and welcome. We do have some child members (13 or older), so there is a concern about some avatars, member names, etc.
    MoiFrey
    Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:51 pm
    Newbie "Fry Cook" Poster
    I'm still mystified. I photographed that because it's the most attractive place in the world to my cat. I never dreamed it would be something anyone would object to a 13-year old seeing. icon_confused.gif

    I'd really like to use the same avatar as my food blog, but it looks like Food.com isn't friendly to my innocent photo.
    Linky
    Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:02 pm
    Food.com Groupie
    Thanks for your help, Zeldaz.

    Before I ever typed in my first recipe, I read all the info about copyrights. It seemed very clear that it was ok to republish a recipe as it was a list of ingredients.

    I spent years in a field where confidentiality was very important, which was why I originally didn't broadcast MoiFrey's name. But at the risk of being accused of stealing again, I'll just stick to reading other peoples' recipes or making my source abundantly clear. I guess I could change a couple ingredient amounts, too...
    MoiFrey
    Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:09 pm
    Newbie "Fry Cook" Poster
    A recipe isn't just a list of ingredients if it contains methods, and comments on preparation.

    I appreciate you posting the acknowledgement. My blog is published because I hope people will read it, not because I want it to be kept confidential. icon_wink.gif
    duonyte
    Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:31 pm
    Forum Host
    MoiFrey wrote:
    I'm still mystified. I photographed that because it's the most attractive place in the world to my cat. I never dreamed it would be something anyone would object to a 13-year old seeing. icon_confused.gif

    I'd really like to use the same avatar as my food blog, but it looks like Food.com isn't friendly to my innocent photo.


    You should discuss this with staff - click the Contact Us/Help link - on bottom of screen or in the right hand column in box that opens when you hover over "talk and tips". We aren't staff and have no idea of what your photo was, and would not be able to make any decisions about it in any event.
    Linky
    Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:18 am
    Food.com Groupie
    MoiFrey wrote:
    A recipe isn't just a list of ingredients if it contains methods, and comments on preparation.

    I appreciate you posting the acknowledgement. My blog is published because I hope people will read it, not because I want it to be kept confidential. icon_wink.gif


    Taken from food.com's explanation of copyright:

    "Copyright protects creative works (written or artistic). Though we think of cooking as art, that does not make a recipe copyrightable.

    "A mere listing of ingredients is not protected under copyright law. However, where a recipe or formula is accompanied by substantial literary expression in the form of an explanation or directions, or when there is a collection of recipes as in a cookbook, there may be a basis for copyright protection."
    Â — The Copyright Office of the US Government

    A list of ingredients cannot be copyrighted. An idea, concept, system or method of doing something cannot be copyrighted either. Only the the substantially literary expression associated with a recipe can be copyrighted. To the extent there are only so many ways to say "boil water" it is not creative, or therefore protected as copyright. If the recipe directions or description are a wholesale copy of another person's creative literary expression, they are in violation of copyright. So even if the recipe originated elsewhere, even if the ingredients are still the same, if the directions and description of your posted recipe are in your own words, it is your recipe. "

    Therefore, even though I used my own description, I should have altered the directions, which I have now done.
    I regret my error. Enough, please.
    MoiFrey
    Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:44 am
    Newbie "Fry Cook" Poster
    Thank you for that. That is interesting to know.

    I never copyrighted the recipe. The issue was never about copyright.

    Again, thank you for the changes, especially the credit and the link to the blog. The issue was really about getting credit for the work I did in developing the recipe over years, and then seeing it posted without attribution.

    I don't want bad feelings to linger. I think your response was admirable. You responded quickly and thoughtfully, and I do appreciate it. I hope we can go out of this with no residue of hard feelings.

    I wish you well.
    Linky
    Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:52 am
    Food.com Groupie
    You, too!

    Now start posting some more of YOUR yummy recipes - and figure out an icon!!!
    Mary at Food.com
    Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:43 pm
    Food.com Staff
    Hi MoiFrey and welcome! Thank you for allowing Linky to share your recipe. We hope the link to your blog even drives traffic to your site.

    In regards to your blog avatar, this is a family friendly website. Although it was not intended as a suggestive photo, it can across that way to many that don't know you. Therefore, we cannot allow. Do you have a picture of your cat on your lap that you would like to share?
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