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    Cleaning question

    Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:58 am Groupie
    This is part of a discussion on another message board-
    The "poster" wants to clean her dishes with just vinegar in her dishwasher. She claims that with the hot water, the vinegar will also sanitize and clean her dishes.
    She will also use just baking soda. I will stick with my dishwasher detergent, thank you. I doubt that I would have dinner at her house.
    She also claims that "soap is soap". Excuse me. I use bath gel for my shower, shampoo for my hair and laundry detergent for my clothes. (Sometimes a little shampoo for hand washables). I would not wash my hair with something I use to hand wash my dishes.
    Your opinions please.
    Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:35 pm Groupie
    Liquid dish soap actually makes a great shampoo, I used to use Joy all the time. I wouldn't use a super grease-cutting one, though. These days I use liquid Castile soap as shampoo and body wash, it rinses clean and is less drying. Old hippies will remember that you can even brush your teeth with the stuff.
    As far as vinegar goes, it's going to be so diluted by the water she may as well not even put it in. The dishwasher soap is not there to sanitize, but to lift the food off the dishes so it can be rinsed away. Water is what does the cleaning, and if it's hot enough it will sanitize. It will not, however, sterilize. Boiling hot water is needed for that.
    Vinegar will also wreck the dispenser mechanism. See this article.
    Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:29 pm
    Forum Host
    Those of us that are over 60, will remember back before home automatic dishwashers, the myriad of dish soaps, laundry detergents, shampoos, and body washes that have come into existence in recent years, we used "soap."
    Back then, many of us used "brown soap" aka Fels-Naptha Soap or Octagon Soap for pretty much everything including laundry that was scrubbed on a wash board. Sometimes borax or washing soda (not baking soda) was added to the laundry water (along with the slivers or gratings of brown soap).
    Gentler Castile Soap was used for bathing, washing babies, and fine washables. Castile soap was expensive at the time, so unless there was a baby in the house, many of us used brown soap for bathing and "shampoo" too.
    To this day I still wash my thick (waist length) hair with either a bar of "brown soap" or a bar of Castile soap. I have very shiny, healthy hair. I don't use "cream rinses," never had split ends, and never had dandruff.

    I have no problem with people that use "soap" for cleaning (all "soaps" are not created equal), it still does a great job!

    However, if you are going to use an automatic dishwasher, I think you should use a detergent that is formulated for optimal cleaning in that type of appliance. Some of the newer/higher end dishwashers do have an extra sterilize cycle (aside from the standard "sanitize" cycle) that uses steam to sterilize the dishes.

    White vinegar makes a good rinse (for glassware, laundry, etc.), especially if you have very hard water. It makes a good glass and window cleaner when used full strength too.

    (Old hippies also used straight baking soda or table salt for brushing teeth too icon_wink.gif )
    K9 Owned
    Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:20 pm
    Forum Host
    Due to reactions with commercial products I make my own laundry soap and use vinegar as a rinse and softener.

    I use a really cheap shampoo that I have found works better than expensive ones but for the dishes its Dawn for the hand washed items and commercial pods for the dishwasher. I do use vinegar as a rinse agent in the dishwasher.

    The right tool for the job icon_wink.gif
    Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:18 pm Groupie
    Dee514 wrote:

    (Old hippies also used straight baking soda or table salt for brushing teeth too icon_wink.gif )

    I did for years, but my dentist put a stop to that because it was scrubbing the enamel off my teeth! I also rinsed with peroxide. No more, tens of thousands of dollars in dental repair later.
    Connie Lea
    Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:32 am Groupie
    I can remember a couple times when I was growing up (in the dark ages) when we ran out of toothpaste and used baking soda. Didn't taste real good but I think it did foam up. Pretty cool.
    Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:09 am Groupie
    I have used vinegar as a rinse aid in my dishwasher forever, and it has never done any damage to my dishwasher or dishes. I don't add food coloring to the rinse neither. I have hard water also. I also add a couple of drops of dawn in my dishwasher along with a Tablespoon of Borax.

    I use Dawn to hand wash dishes. Inexpensive shampoo for hair washing. I have used dawn to wash my hair. I had put a color on my hair that I thought was too dark. Dishwashing liquid helps strip the color.
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