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    Paula Deen

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    DEEP
    Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:39 pm
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    OK, we have been several days into this "episode". I am curious as to what folks everywhere, and anywhere, have to say about this. As you know Paula Deen has been dismissed by Food Network, i.e., Scripps, the owners of Food.com. Was this justice? Was it right, or self-righteous? Was it arbitrary? Has there been any "pre-existing" circumstances that led to this hasty cancellation.

    I'd like thoughts and ideas. Please, no vitriole, no slamming any party involved....just your heart felt opinions....unbiased. What do you think REALLY happened here?
    Zurie
    Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:18 am
    Forum Host
    Gee, DEEP, I didn't know that. We usually see TV shows in South Africa some time after it has aired in the States.

    She was SO "visible"!! And apparently so popular! I haven't actually caught one of her shows recently -- probably just missed them.

    Do you mean she was "chopped", just like that, no reason given? Anything about it in your TV magazines or in the papers? icon_eek.gif
    DEEP
    Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:14 pm
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    Zurie, during a court deposition in a lawsuit that a former employee filed against her, Deen admitted to have made a racial slur in the past.

    Immediately upon that "news" hitting the press, Paula was axed. Yes, it has been big news here in the states. She has also been dropped by several of her sponsors....Walmart and Smithfield Foods among them.

    Also, several restaurants bearing her name have dropped the "Paula Deen" from their name.
    ala-kat
    Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:56 pm
    Food.com Groupie
    I'll chime in here...

    I think Food Network is taking advantage of an issue. I think they were already looking for an opportunity to walk away, and this came along. I read something about the channel today that gives this weight...they are leaning more towards competitions and such to reach the younger demographics and getting away from actual cooking shows. This shift has/had already started. It is a shift that has already led me to all but abandoning them myself.

    I do not think she is a racist at all...more of a product of her environment - as we all are. While she did make mistakes, the punishment is way out of line for the crime. Her brother, on the other hand....

    I never really watched her show as what she cooks is pretty much what I've known all my life. I look for something more unfamiliar. My heart goes out to her as this has to be very trying and difficult. I think some forgiveness is in order, and I wish her well in this awful time.
    DEEP
    Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:10 pm
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    I echo your sentiment, ala-kat. The punishment just doesn't seem to fit the crime.
    Zurie
    Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:57 am
    Forum Host
    Interesting, and slightly scary. Surely cooking is/was her career and her income?

    As you said, it's probably blown up out of proportion, and a good excuse if you want to get rid of someone.

    And talking of cooking contests ... this trend is going a bit too far, and will surely not last! Some are fascinating, such as the various Masterchef competitions. Some are boring. And save me, please, from any cooking "contest" where the contestants are young teens. They should have their slot, I suppose, but please not in prime viewing time.
    DEEP
    Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:01 pm
    Food.com Groupie
    It is scary, Zurie. But unfortunately, your name on this website, as well as mine, and all other members, are nothing more(or less) than $$$$ signs before Food.com, Food Network and Scripps. Just a click onto or within this website, and your "data" is sent to hundreds, and possibly thousands of "affiliates". Food.com is so busy sharing information that it slows this website to a "crawl". Outside weather.com, this is probably the most "guilty" of all websites that exist.

    Yet we cannot underestimate the pull of someone like Deen. I have no doubt that she is truly a greed filled woman. She has now been dropped by Target, Home Depot and even her publisher. Her ouster by the Food Network was just the first domino to fall, and that precipitated her further collapse, and that is nothing more than "insidious" commercialization.

    Speaking of "scary", I can't help but wonder where our fellow Food.com members stand regarding this controversy. Are they scared to voice their opinion? It would seem so.

    Paula is greedy, but much less so than Scripps. Paula just didn't realize the commercial titan she was up against.

    Yes, she is now a wealthy woman who now heads an empire worth about $17 million annually. And, yes it is a national issue here. Just now National Public Radio is doing a special on Paula, and she has even appeared on national TV this week.
    ala-kat
    Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:10 pm
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    Greed can be a great motivator for some people. While I take no issue with her not disclosing her diabetes (as this is a very personal thing), it did give me pause when she announced it only after she became a (paid) spokesperson for the medication she was taking.

    I didn't realize she had her fingers in so many pies until they started dropping out. I've only noticed her stuff at Big Lots icon_biggrin.gif As a general rule, I don't buy based on someones name. I look for the best I can afford, and if they are lucky enough to be the one, good for them - but it is never a driving factor.

    I was not born or raised in the south, but I am from, and live in the south (military family), only ten years younger than her and she really should have learned to self-edit herself long ago. Say what you want in private with like minded people, but to not check herself in the business setting just sets you up to fail, although usually not on this level.

    I'm not a scardy cat icon_biggrin.gif
    ala-kat
    Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:29 pm
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    Oh, and to add...if you help your brother financially with an endeavor and it comes to your attention that there are serious issues (porn), you really should distance yourself as quickly as possible, and not turn a blind eye to it. RUN, RUN, RUN. Cut your loses, and run. Had she done that, this would never have come about.
    Zurie
    Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:51 am
    Forum Host
    Quote:
    DEEP wrote: Speaking of "scary", I can't help but wonder where our fellow Food.com members stand regarding this controversy. Are they scared to voice their opinion? It would seem so.


    Being across the Atlantic, I try not to voice any criticism of happenings, websites, politics, etc. of other countries, which are none of my business -- but I hear what you say.

    The ads which keep on creeping over F.com are, however, highly irritating and seem to be increasing. The site is extremely slow for me, and I don't have a very fast connection as it is. Just far too many bits and pieces are being loaded with each page. icon_evil.gif

    On days when I don't have a lot of time and want to check on my (and other forums) I sit here and use words no decent woman should use! icon_wink.gif

    A small side-panel report in a Sunday newspaper today mention Paula Deen's problems, but also says she has a cookbook due out in August. I should have realised that over the years she would have made a ton of money -- of course she would have had fingers in several pies. I suppose that's understandable.

    However, I sort of feel there is more to her being axed from everything than just the racial slur she has apologised for ... ? icon_eek.gif
    Zeldaz
    Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:37 pm
    Food.com Groupie
    A whole lot more, and it's a court case that is being handled in the judicial system. A judge will determine if the case is frivolous or has merit, but that will take some time. The cookbook is not going to be published, either.
    La Dilettante
    Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:33 am
    Food.com Groupie
    I have not been sorry to witness her takedown, frankly. Her appallingly nasty, greasy, over-buttered, ultra-sugary, deep-fried, gooey junk she promoted for years is a downright insult to serious, mindful cooks everywhere. With obesity rates what they are---especially here in the South---and diabetes on the rise everywhere, her "cuisine" amounted to gross negligence. She might as well have hosted shows demonstrating how to smoke unfiltered cigarettes and chug-a-lug pints of whiskey. Her faux-tearful interview with Matt Lauer made me embarrassed to be a fellow Southerner! Note to other Food.commers around the world: we are truly not all like that!
    Zeldaz
    Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:19 am
    Food.com Groupie
    icon_lol.gif No one is "scared to voice their opinion"! At least two threads on the subject ended up in the Frying Pan.
    Newest development: she fired her agent.
    PaulO in MA
    Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:16 am
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    La D. ... I agree with you.

    I never liked her. But, it also looks like she received very poor advice in crisis management.

    I've dealt with some issues in industry, and know the editor of "When Lightning Strikes."

    http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Lightning-Strikes-How-To-Crisis-Manual-Classic-Case-Studies-Wayne-L-Pines-1994-Hardcover-/5681982

    She could be a chapter in the next edition, if they want to have a section on how not to handle a crisis.
    DEEP
    Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:35 pm
    Food.com Groupie
    Zurie wrote:
    Quote:
    DEEP wrote: Speaking of "scary", I can't help but wonder where our fellow Food.com members stand regarding this controversy. Are they scared to voice their opinion? It would seem so.


    Being across the Atlantic, I try not to voice any criticism of happenings, websites, politics, etc. of other countries, which are none of my business -- but I hear what you say.

    The ads which keep on creeping over F.com are, however, highly irritating and seem to be increasing. The site is extremely slow for me, and I don't have a very fast connection as it is. Just far too many bits and pieces are being loaded with each page. icon_evil.gif

    On days when I don't have a lot of time and want to check on my (and other forums) I sit here and use words no decent woman should use! icon_wink.gif

    A small side-panel report in a Sunday newspaper today mention Paula Deen's problems, but also says she has a cookbook due out in August. I should have realised that over the years she would have made a ton of money -- of course she would have had fingers in several pies. I suppose that's understandable.

    However, I sort of feel there is more to her being axed from everything than just the racial slur she has apologised for ... ? icon_eek.gif


    Not to damn F.com, but I just don't visit here much anymore. My laptop just bogs down when I get here, and it continues to get worse....way to many cookies, tracking software and mega-ads for me to quickly access and get around the site. Thus, I understand your situation, Zurie. When it reaches the point that the first forum you access is the "Support" forum, something is wrong. I do that just to prepare myself for whatever problems I am going to encounter before I go out on the site. It's just become a waste of time for me.

    That aside, I noticed today that PD's on the front of People mag. She is far from being a "goner". Like all things, this too shall pass...and I suspect that Deen will come out fine, Just as eventually "FOOD" will no longer be a desired destination. It is right for F.com to prepare for this, yet at what cost? The dimunition of Deen will come back to haunt FoodNetwork in way too many ways. And in that, Deen is probably the smarter, and will come out on top. Folks are simply tired of corporations like Scripps who will not "take care" of the individuals who have made it great.

    ZeldaZ, I didn't know that other "topics" along this line had been tossed into the "frying pan", and that may happen to this thread. But, people are frustrated, and need a forum. You wanna see frustration, just check out Customer Support daily. You'll see plenty of it, and I know you do. This site used to be "community". It has become nothing more than an effort to get folks to sell their souls to commercialism.

    I've been banned from the site before for speaking my opinion. This just is not the "zaar" community I once knew, and that's regrettable.

    The cookbook will not be out in August. Deen was dropped by her publisher.
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