yeast/candida?

[Chef Tweaker]

My husband has bad gas (stinky!!). I realize this is a typical man thing but seems to be getting worse. Bad enough to offend his co-workers. We already have tried to eliminate lactose from his diet but still use lactose-free and foods with casein in them. I suspect he is intolerant of something else that we didn't discover back when we did the elimination diet. We suspect maybe onions or maybe gluten but nothing seems conclusive. It must be a food that is in everything.

We are though, suspecting that he might have an overgrowth of yeast and he is interested in trying to modify his diet for a while to lower the bad yeast. I did find a few things online about this but was wondering if anyone else has had experience with a diet of this type.

My biggest reluctance has been that the $$ isn't there for us to buy all new foods. (Not to mention the challenge to me since I am the cook!)

[Shirl (J) 831]

first of all I would try to keep a food journal for maybe a month and write down what he eats and how each food item reacts in him then you can better pinpoint the culprit I had to do that and it sounds funny but it does work,

[UmmBinat]

Do an elimination diet again!!

[Chef Tweaker]

UmmBinat wrote:
Do an elimination diet again!!

So I'm guessing from the posts leaning in this direction that the posters are sceptical about candida? We could do an elimination diet again but it took a doctor's orders for him to do it the first time. I doubt he would go for it.

[UmmBinat]

Chef Tweaker wrote:

UmmBinat wrote:
Do an elimination diet again!!

So I'm guessing from the posts leaning in this direction that the posters are sceptical about candida? We could do an elimination diet again but it took a doctor's orders for him to do it the first time. I doubt he would go for it.

I wouldn't be surprised that he has an issue with candida, yet I have never known it to cause gas problems that is more related to intolerance/allergies I think. Candida is many times part of the problem of food sensitivities/allergies though so it would be good to know if he has it and clear that up.

[Chef Tweaker]

I'll think about maybe doing the elimination diet backward. (just eliminating one food.) If I eliminate wheat/gluten and he gets better I could try putting it back in - yeast free foods like tortillas and see if he stays better or starts to react again.

[UmmBinat]

Chef Tweaker wrote:
I'll think about maybe doing the elimination diet backward. (just eliminating one food.) If I eliminate wheat/gluten and he gets better I could try putting it back in - yeast free foods like tortillas and see if he stays better or starts to react again.

I think that is a good idea. Intolerances run in families so thinking about your baby's reaction to milk... lactose or other part of the stuff I would try eliminating that first.

[Chef Tweaker]

UmmBinat wrote:

Chef Tweaker wrote:
I'll think about maybe doing the elimination diet backward. (just eliminating one food.) If I eliminate wheat/gluten and he gets better I could try putting it back in - yeast free foods like tortillas and see if he stays better or starts to react again.

I think that is a good idea. Intolerances run in families so thinking about your baby's reaction to milk... lactose or other part of the stuff I would try eliminating that first.

We have already "eliminated" lactose (although maybe not strict with processed foods at times) also I think there may be whey in his bread and I haven't been strict on that.

[UmmBinat]

Chef Tweaker wrote:

UmmBinat wrote:

Chef Tweaker wrote:
I'll think about maybe doing the elimination diet backward. (just eliminating one food.) If I eliminate wheat/gluten and he gets better I could try putting it back in - yeast free foods like tortillas and see if he stays better or starts to react again.

I think that is a good idea. Intolerances run in families so thinking about your baby's reaction to milk... lactose or other part of the stuff I would try eliminating that first.

We have already "eliminated" lactose (although maybe not strict with processed foods at times) also I think there may be whey in his bread and I haven't been strict on that.

Hmm well that is what I meant but I see why you think it may be something else. Next I would try eliminating gluten/wheat as you said.

[thedixongang]

What about high fructose corn syrup?? It hides in many foods, is more difficult to digest, and is known to cause gas/bloating. I didn't discover this until I took my dd to a gastric dr. for another condition.

You may want to try eliminating fructose, but it hides in all kinds of stuff like crackers, salad dressing, ketchup, bread,etc. Best wishes.

[Chef Tweaker]

thedixongang wrote:
What about high fructose corn syrup?? It hides in many foods, is more difficult to digest, and is known to cause gas/bloating. I didn't discover this until I took my dd to a gastric dr. for another condition.

You may want to try eliminating fructose, but it hides in all kinds of stuff like crackers, salad dressing, ketchup, bread,etc. Best wishes.

hmm... good one. Hubby is addicted to Heinz ketchup but now I remember that they have started to make it with sugar again.

[bonniespruin]

With yeast, it is important to use acidophilus/probiotics. It help fight the yeast. Also, watch the sugar...it feeds the yeast. We use herbal teas or supplements that fight yeast as well...Pau D'arco tea, fennel tea, garlic capsules, grapefruit seed extract capsules. It is good to make a rotation of 4 days on one kind with the herbs. The yeast will get accustomed to one all the time. Instead of using sugar in tea, we use stevia drops.

Eating too much soy can be bad for gas as well. My daughter found that out and has cut back and it helps (she loves soy, tofu, miso etc.)

Good luck!

[boron]

I have made an extensive research and found not one reliable source that would prove the existence of "yeast overgrowth" in the gut of otherwise healthy people.

Main causes of gas:
- high fiber diet
- lactose intolerance
- fructose malabsorption
- celiac disease
- small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
- intestinal parasites

Some people with specific types of normal gut bacteria have sulfur smelling gas after eating "foods high in sulfur" (search online for the list).

[Amberngriffinco]

Stay away from all yeast, and yeast risen foods.

[Chef Tweaker]

It is interesting that I haven't seen more jump into this thread who have actually chosen a yeast-free diet.

This topic was started by me quite a while ago. Ironically, I am actually the one who has started a yeast-free diet. I was already looking into it and the sugar overload of the holidays really pushed me over the edge. I was not ready/willing to do the complete extreme diet (basically a no-carb diet) but found one that allows whole grains and fruits in moderation.

Yeast-free means nothing fermented so no vinegar which has been the hardest thing. Or soy sauce, mayo, mustard etc. *sigh* but I have been good on not eating sugar as well (feeds the yeast) and can say that I am feeling much healtier!

I don't buy the previous comment that systemic yeast is not common. Anyone who has chronic yeast infections such as athlete's foot or vaginal yeast infections - that is coming from within. The candida can cause leaky gut and that in turn causes various food allergies so anyone with multiple food allergies really should look into it.

Also I am looking into copper imbalance as possibly being the catalyst that caused the yeast overgrowth in the first place. I have had hair loss for several years and copper imbalance can cause that.