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    Koechin (Chef)
    Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:15 pm
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    One dish my mother always made during the holidays was "Kassler und Gruenkohl"with little pan glazed potatoes. (my am I hungry for this dish now). The kassler was/is a pork roast with the bone in chops. Due to curing it is quite red in color. It is nothing like smoked pork chops sold in the US. Does anyone know of such a roast here and what it is called? The Gruenkohl of course is Kale and easy to find here, even though it is not like Kale grown in Germany, which was never harvested until it had been hit by a heavy frost, which made it sweeter. I remember as a child going to the Giant "Markthalle" in Berlin and buying it with the frost still clinging to it. Those are some (few) of the good memories.
    Dreamer in Ontario
    Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:26 am Groupie
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    I've seen it spelled Kasseler and Kassler

    My parents go to a German Farmer's market to get properly harvested gruenkohl. They used to grow it themselves. Maybe the canned variety from Germany or Holland would be a better substitute than kale that was harvested too soon.
    Here in Canada we usually get Kasseler from that same market.
    Koechin (Chef)
    Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:16 pm
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    nfortunately, what they sell as Kassler Ripchen are smoked pork chops, which I can buy even at Sam's Club, but they are nothing like Kassler. icon_sad.gif
    sugar maple
    Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:36 pm
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    Kasseler is usually boneless lightly smoked pork neck or loin. You could use a boneless ham cut in thick slices in a pinch.
    Dreamer in Ontario
    Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:52 pm Groupie
    I just stumbled across a recipe to make your own Kassler.
    Koechin (Chef)
    Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:18 pm
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    Thanks for the info. I don't think I'll make my own, but I found the site very helpful for future info. icon_biggrin.gif wave.gif
    Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:18 pm Groupie
    Dreamer and Molly, those recipes look great and I've saved both of them--thank you!!

    I remember my German mom and German/French grandmother eating Kassler Rippchen (back when I was a small child living in Germany).

    Am also thinking/wondering if smoked ham or corned beef (I know, not pork) would make a decent substitute, taste wise?

    Cheers : ) Becky
    Koechin (Chef)
    Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:56 pm
    Forum Host
    To be honest, nothing submitted comes even close to "Real Kassler Rippchen"! icon_sad.gif
    Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:07 pm Groupie
    Hi Koechin Chef~

    I totally understand your frustration!

    It's amazing that with such a large German population in the U.S. that there aren't better German foods available!! icon_sad.gif

    My mother would often lament this fact, even after over 50 yrs in the states...

    I miss the German quark and cheesecake---and NO---I don't want to make my own. Arrrgh.....

    Dreamer in Ontario
    Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:28 pm Groupie
    I don't think it would be the same either. If you had to try one I'd pick the smoked chops. Definitely not the corned beef.
    Koechin (Chef)
    Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:01 pm
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    Smoked pork chops are just smoked! Kassler is first cured, and the meat looks red when purchased. If I remember corectly it was cured in a Saltpeter Brine, hence the red color. Oh, I still miss a lot of things,( the breads, Rote Gruetze, all the varied sausages, Speck which is not bacon. Growing up in Berlin we had a variety of smoked fish). Some of these things I am sure can be found in cities like New York and Chicago. They can be shipped, but the cost is horrendous. icon_eek.gif but I still rather live in The USA!!! icon_biggrin.gif wave.gif
    Dreamer in Ontario
    Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:53 pm Groupie
    We can get some of those things in German delicatessens here. Since I grew up here I can't miss those things we can't get.
    Koechin (Chef)
    Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:41 pm
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    Ontario, is so multi-cultural. This is the reason you can get some of the things of probably every ethnic group. icon_biggrin.gif
    Dreamer in Ontario
    Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:56 pm Groupie
    That's true. Especially in the Toronto area. We have people here from every corner of the world. In my workplace there are more people who were born elsewhere than born in Canada.
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