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    Mysterious Greek Dessert

    Chef Joey Z.
    Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:59 am Groupie
    I'm wondering if anyone can help me. Years ago I visited a restaurant in Kenora, Ontario whose proprieter was from Greece. He served this delicious dessert he called Ek-Mek. He said he used cinnamon rusks soaked in honey as the bottom crust . Then he put a layer of some sort of vanilla custard on top and then more honey and sprinkiled it with cinnamon. This was refrigerated and cold when served. I was wondering if anyone has ever had this dessert or knows it by another name.
    Chef Joey Z
    Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:06 pm
    Forum Host
    here's my recipe for Ekmek Kadaifi (Pastry Topped With Custard and Whipped Cream). I don't use cinnamon rusks. icon_biggrin.gif
    Chef Joey Z.
    Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:05 am Groupie
    Thank you Evelyn, that looks like it. I appreciate you helping me, its been nearly 30 years of wondering...much appreciated.
    Chef Joey Z
    You're most welcome. I hope it lives up to your expectations should you decide to make it. Unfortunately, it is my experience that few things do. Memories are always more delicious than the real thing. icon_wink.gif
    Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:12 am
    Experienced "Head Chef" Poster
    ekmek kadayıfı is turkısh evelyn as you know, and this recipe should be in middle eastern part............... icon_wink.gif

    ekmek kadayıf is turkish words as you know,please dont ınform people wrongly about your cuisine

    ı try to understand you but cant!!!!

    if this forum is food com and if your are host you have no right to say that ekmek kadayıf ot baklava or dolma yoghurt is greek:..

    ther are so many soruces on net that shows these meals are orginally turkısh.yes ı understand you lıke thet meals but please dont add a suffix at the and of words such as caciki or kadayıffı ,or dont add 'greek' before words sauch as greek dolma baklava,it doesnt becomjes orginally greek when you do it,please dont gıve wrong kondledge to peoaple unaware of turkısh cuısine
    Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:58 am
    Forum Host
    As I'm sure you know, Greeks have been living in the area known as present-day Turkey since the middle of the second millenium BC - actually, long before the Seljuq Turks invaded the area and it eventually evolved into Turkey as we know it today. As to the cuisine...historically, there is a lot of controversy as to whether it is 'greek' or 'turkish' since Alexander the Great conquered the entire area and populated it with an Hellenistic culture that eventually merged and happily co-existed with the indian and middle-eastern cultures.

    It is something like asking the question, 'what came first, the chicken or the egg?' It is simply the cuisine of the entire region. icon_wink.gif icon_biggrin.gif

    Welcome to the Forum!
    Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:34 am
    Experienced "Head Chef" Poster
    ı know my history!!

    but tell me why are these greek meals are not greek but turkish evelyn

    you have no right to hide the facts....

    dolma is turkish verbal noun

    yogurt is also turkish

    baklava is turkish word

    sarma is turkish

    olma is a verbal noun of the Turkish verb dolmak, 'to be stuffed', and means 'stuffed thing'.[1][2]

    Dolma is a stuffed vegetable, that is, a vegetable that is hollowed out and filled with stuffing. This applies to courgette, tomato, pepper, eggplant, and the like; stuffed mackerel, squid, and mussel are also called dolma. Dishes involving wrapping leaves such as vine leaves or cabbage leaves around a filling are called sarma though in many languages, the distinction is usually not made. Sarma is derived from the Turkish verb sarmak which means 'to wrap'. Other variants derive from the Turkish word for 'leaf', yaprak.



    The history of baklava is not well documented. It has been claimed by many ethnic groups, but there is strong evidence that it is of Central Asian Turkic origin, with its current form being developed in the imperial kitchens of the Topkapı Palace.[3]


    The word baklava is first attested in English in 1653[22], a borrowing from Ottoman Turkish باقلوا /bɑːklɑvɑː/.[23][24] The name baklava is used in many languages with minor phonetic and spelling variations.

    The ultimate origin of the name is unclear.

    Buell argues that the word "baklava" may come from the Mongolian root baγla- 'to tie, wrap up, pile up' composed with the Turkic verbal ending


    Yoghurt, yogurt or yogourt (UK: /ˈjɒɡət/, US: /ˈjoʊɡərt/; Turkish: yoğurt,

    The word is derived from Turkish: yoğurt,[1] and is related to the obsolete verb yoğmak 'to be curdled or coagulated; to thicken'.[2] The letter ğ was traditionally rendered as "gh" in transliterations of Turkish. In older Turkish, the letter denoted a voiced velar fricative /ɣ/, but this sound is elided between back vowels in modern Turkish, in which the word is pronounced [joˈuɾt]. Some eastern dialects retain the consonant in this position, and Turks in the Balkans pronounce the word with a hard /ɡ/.[citation needed]


    strong evidences show they are turkısh

    are there a verb called 'dol' or dolmak' in greek

    if you claım greek yoghurt or dolma

    you wıll fınd a greek nema otherwise you wıll stop

    includıng the turks who invented yogurt,no natıon says ' amerıcan yoghurt japanese yogurt or british yogurt to mean 'filtered turkısh yoghurt'
    ' the ınvasion of turks!!!',ı can understand why you claim greek greek everywhere!!!

    inferiority complex
    Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:41 am
    Experienced "Head Chef" Poster
    nobody has a right to claim that yogurt baklava dolma and sarma belong to greeks.if they ar greek, why cant you fınd a greek name for them ??

    a sımple question dear evelyn..

    ı am not dıscussıng here but here ı thınk you shouldnt talk about politics....

    dont reflect your inferiority complex to nobody icon_smile.gif
    Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:52 am
    Experienced "Head Chef" Poster
    still ı want an answer but no no no

    she can never answer why their name is still turkısh

    ı am showıng the strong evıdences dont you belıeve wikipedia, this is not a turkısh site evelyn ??

    dear evelyn why dont you say that ekmek kadayıfı is a turkısh name??

    why do you hide this??

    what do you call bread in greek.ı thınk not ekmek because ekmek is turkısh

    ı thınk you read but cant answer

    icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif

    nobody can explain why these 'greek meals' have turkish names.Nobody......
    Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:52 am
    Forum Host
    OK icon_biggrin.gif
    Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:50 am
    Semi-Experienced "Sous Chef" Poster
    Seriously icon_confused.gif icon_confused.gif Do you really have nothing better to do than get on your high horse over the origins of recipies. The fact that people enjoy this food, no matter where it is from should be enough. If you really feel that strongly, start your own forum, with your "TURKISH" recipes
    Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:41 pm Groupie
    Can I butt in here... Wikipedia isn't the truth, its filled in by people who think they know what they are talking about and edits and inputs are added by other people, so any information on there has to be taken with a very large pinch of salt !

    The next point, is origins of food are very much personal points of view and in no way reflect actual reality. You can't say that something like yoghurt was invented by one person who was from one country and know that for sure. You have no idea if it had been about in very similar forms all over the world for many years and then someone decided to market it and then it was thought of as theirs etc. You can't tell me that because I when I was a child I decided to make cheese toast more interesting by putting onions and ketchup on that I was the only one in the world that had ever thought of this ....

    and many foods/dishes have been about for thousands of years (many from the Romans) and over time people have started to refer to them by one familiar name, doesn't mean that thats where it came from !

    If I had a pound for every version of what "vindaloo" means I could buy another house !

    This is food forum to talk about recipes, food and such, not to have agressive arguements about why Turkey is better than everyone else !

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