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    **Tinkerbell**
    Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:42 am
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    craftymamaof1 wrote:
    hi , i went back to dr. i tested weak to grains again, he was really surprised. i told him i ate the corn, he said , oh. i got treated for grains, wheat and gluten this time. 3 vials. last time only 1. that was last sat. i seem to be doing much better. i think it passed this time. i go tomorrow,(fri). my dr lets me pick what i want to treat,is that how yours does it? thanks for talking with me, it's nice to talk to someone else who has went thru it too.jenifer


    You know, I thought it was interesting that in a previous post you mentioned that you get to pick what you want to be treated for. Our doctor insists on treating the first 15 on the list (of 1-78 allergens) in order. After that we can pick & choose.
    I understand from a sick patient perspective that I don't want to wait to be treated for something I know I react to & get treated for something that I can't see. Like being treated for minerals I can't see in tap water when I can see a physical rash after eating peanuts. You know?

    But after seeing how the first 15 are the building blocks, if you will, of the rest of the list, it actually can save you money (less treatments) in the long run. The photo below is the first 30 with my allergens circled. I treated for all of them in order. So did my daughter & the "First 15 in order" practice made absolute sense to me while she was being treated.

    She originally tested with a reaction to Turkey (#30 on the sample below) and hormones (#15). After being treated for the hormones we re-tested her for turkey & found that the hormone treatment had cleared the turkey as well. Now we don't have to treat for turkey anymore because it was the hormones in the turkey that she reacted to. icon_wink.gif

    After that experience I was better able to understand the reasoning behind having the first 15 treatments be in order. (Of course, if you aren't allergic to all 15 items, you don't do 15 treatments. You can see by the circles on my 15 that I only reacted to & treated for 4 allergens.)

    Bummer that the grains didn't pass, but it's just a matter of treating for it again. You'll get it this time! icon_biggrin.gif
    Thanks for checking in again, Jen!
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    craftymamaof1
    Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:06 pm
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    yay! i passed grains,gluten, and wheat. i thought i did ,as i've felt better. i treated for local ragweed, local weeds, and naet ragweed and weeds tonight.that was the dr's recomendation, i'm just trusting his judgement.all is well,jenifer
    **Tinkerbell**
    Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:58 pm
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    Yayyy!!! That's great news! icon_biggrin.gif
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    craftymamaof1
    Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:10 pm
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    hi, went to dr, today. treated for beef mix, meat mix,local grasses,weeds and several more ragweeds. i am feeling pretty good ,overall. what have you treated for recently? talk to you later, jenifer
    UnknownChef86
    Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:12 pm
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    Okay, so now that I've read the whole thread...can someone please explain what NAET is? And what is involved in a "treatment"?

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    **Tinkerbell**
    Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:30 pm
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    Hi UC! wave.gif

    Nambudripad's Allergy Elimination Technique (NAET) is a natural method of retraining your body to not react negatively to something that it does now react to. We'll use nuts as an example, as that was the one that produced the most severe reaction for my DD.

    Lots of people eat nuts every day without incident, while others will eat just one (or handle one) & have a negative reaction. (A rash, in our case.) An NAET treatment will teach your body to recognize that nut as "friendly" instead of a threat.

    The doctor will put a small vial filled with water infused with the energy of the nut(s) into your hand while he/she uses a tiny jackhammer-looking instrument up & down your spine (you are fully clothed & can be sitting up or laying face down) to "interrupt" the energy already flowing through your body. As your energy resettles itself it will integrate the nut energy. Now your body will "know" that the nut energy is friendly instead of threatening. The treatment takes about 5 minutes & then there is about 15 minutes of you continuing to hold the vial while sitting or laying down quietly.

    The energy flows through our bodies in one direction & it takes 25 hours for it to make one full circulation, so after a treatment we need to avoid the "allergen" so as not to interrupt the flow of energy before it's finished it's round.
    We will not eat or touch the allergen for 25 hours after treatment. After that we pop into our doctor's office & get tested to see if we "cleared" the allergen.

    Testing involves a technique called muscle testing. Basically, when you come into contact with something your body identifies as a threat your muscles will go weak. If it's not a threat then your muscles stay strong.

    The doctor will stand in front of you, hand you a vial in one hand & then the other hand you will hold up parralel to the floor. The doctor will then push down on your wrist while you try to hold strong, keeping your arm up.
    If your musles go weak against the allergen your arm will not be able to resist the doctor's pressure. If you do not react to the allergen then your arm will stay up.
    This is the technique used to test all of the vials to see which items you will need to be treated for & it's how the doctor will test to see if you have cleared the allergen after treatment.

    The hardest part of all of this is the avoidance part. It looks like a big pain in the beginning but will become easier as you go. Planning meals ahead of time so that you don't have to touch or ingest whatever you've been treated for is the key. Sometimes it was actually fun for me... like a license to eat tater tots or french fries two days in a row was all right by me! icon_lol.gif

    I would highly recommend reading one of Dr. Devi Nambudripad's books. They won't tell you exactly how the treatment itself is done (I've done that here) but they do help explain how our bodies can react negatively to something on an emotional level, a physical level or a psychological level, as well as personal stories (like mine on page 1 or 2 here).
    If you have any specific questions that I can answer, I'm more than happy to do so. icon_smile.gif
    I'm not an expert on the subject, just a happy patient.
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    UnknownChef86
    Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:22 am
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    I'm familiar with kinesiology, as my chiropractor uses it. However, he's not trained in NAET. Definitely sounds like something I'd be interested in, though.

    Has it helped your fibro at all? And do they ever do treatments for medications? I have SO many drug allergies and sensitivities! Antibiotics and NSAID's in particular. It's gotten to the point that A)I could be in some serious (!) trouble if I ever get an antibiotic-resistant bacterial infection, and B) NSAID's have sent me to the ER five times in pre-anaphylactic shock. Four times before I learned what I was reacting to and one more because...well, my degree of allergy isn't dependent on the severity of my migraine! icon_rolleyes.gif icon_redface.gif

    Thank you for your help!
    **Tinkerbell**
    Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:01 am
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    UnknownChef86 wrote:
    I'm familiar with kinesiology, as my chiropractor uses it. However, he's not trained in NAET. Definitely sounds like something I'd be interested in, though.

    Has it helped your fibro at all? And do they ever do treatments for medications? I have SO many drug allergies and sensitivities! Antibiotics and NSAID's in particular. It's gotten to the point that A)I could be in some serious (!) trouble if I ever get an antibiotic-resistant bacterial infection, and B) NSAID's have sent me to the ER five times in pre-anaphylactic shock. Four times before I learned what I was reacting to and one more because...well, my degree of allergy isn't dependent on the severity of my migraine! icon_rolleyes.gif icon_redface.gif

    Thank you for your help!


    Excellent! If you understand kinesiology you're halfway there! icon_smile.gif
    Not all DCs are trained in NAET (not all believe in it) & not all NAET doctors are DCs. I used to office manage for 3 DCs, 3 massage therapists & 2 Acupuncturists & only one of the DCs did kinesiology even.

    DH was allergic to gluten (not celiac, but more than just sensitive) & several doctors (MDs) simply told us that he was allergic to Tylenol. Eventually we found the 3rd NAET doctor who explained that he was reacting to gluten & lots of times capsules that are used for these drugs contain gluten.

    The same principal surprised me when I was tested for trees & was strong. icon_confused.gif I've been allergic to trees my whole life. Then I was tested for chemicals sprayed on trees (pesticides, etc.) & found I was allergic to those instead.
    I have always thought it strange that I can use or be around some perfumes/soaps/lotions/deoderants, but not others, until we tested for flowers (I was never told I was allergic to flowers when I was prick tested as a child), but here I am, allergic to flowers & that would include their scent. Then when DH & I thought about which scents I am able to be around it turned out they were definintely not anything floral; they were citrusy or other scents that were named things like rain or cotton. You get the idea.

    So, I think it's highly likely that an NAET doctor could either find out what it is in the meds you're allergic to (All the vitamins can be treated for & if you're taking a pill that has any kind of Vitamin B in it & you're allergic to VitB then you're going to react negatively to that pill) or simply treat you for that med.

    I can't honestly say that NAET has cured the fibro directly, but what I do notice is that when I'm not reacting to the minerals in the water I'm bathing in, cooking with or drinking, the grains I'm baking with or the sugar I'm always ingesting, icon_redface.gif my body isn't aching & I'm not as physically drained. That's not to say I don't still have a fibro flare every time the weather goes from 80 to 40 degrees outside or when a storm front rolls in & we get humid, but I do notice a difference.
    I still have lots of items to get treated for too.
    My main concern is DD & DH getting all their treatments because they are the ones that were reacting with a nasty rash.
    Currently, we are unemployed & it's all we can do to keep paying the house bills. DH's company shut down 87 stores on the west coast last November & even though he was top producer in 5 states he was out of a job. We've been looking ever since (either one of us will go bact to work & the other will be SAHM or D again), but I'm in medical billing/x-ray tech & the hospitals are laying off around here still & he sells residential lumber (obviously not a booming business right now in the US).

    So, if I were you I'd check out the NAET website HERE: http://naet.com/subscribers/drnamerica.html
    & see if there is a doctor in your area. Re-read one of my posts earlier in this thread (page 1 I think) where I describe the 3 doctors we went to & why we didn't like the first two. If you have more than a couple choices in your area you may be able to ask over the phone or in consultation what each doctor's standard routine is for treatment.

    I will continue to get treatments myself as money permits & I am actually quite confident that one day all of the environmental things making me sick will be cleared & I will be able to live a more comfortable life. icon_smile.gif
    I have spent 20 years doing the western medicine route with meds & shots & many, many, many doctors telling me it's just all in my head or that there is nothing that can be done for my conditions except more pills & then more pills to cure the side effects of the first pill.... if you have fibro, you know what I'm talking about here. So I had nothing to lose by trying a new technique in NAET & we've seen the biggest & most substantial healing happen when DD was able to eat peanut butter for the first time without getting a nasty rash. She now eats it nearly every day & loves it. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Rinshinomori
    Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:54 pm
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    UnknownChef86 wrote:
    I have SO many drug allergies and sensitivities! Antibiotics and NSAID's in particular. It's gotten to the point that A)I could be in some serious (!) trouble if I ever get an antibiotic-resistant bacterial infection, and B) NSAID's have sent me to the ER five times in pre-anaphylactic shock. Four times before I learned what I was reacting to and one more because...well, my degree of allergy isn't dependent on the severity of my migraine! icon_rolleyes.gif icon_redface.gif

    Thank you for your help!


    You are like me. I am allergic to all NSAIDS, all sulfa containing antibiotics such as bactrim, septra, etc (since many people are allergic to these as well, they are not prescribed as much anymore), cipro, contrast dye, and aspirin (maybe). I was allergic to aspirin, but my doctor Desensitized me by taking 81 mg every. But I have to continue my daily dosage or I'll go back to being totally allergic to aspirin again. I have to take this for prevention of heart attack and stroke. I can take tylenol for pain.

    I also worry too about running out of good antibiotics but I have been told by doctors that there are many other ones they can try. I'm so far fine with any penicillin group of antibiotics.

    I blame myself for some of the allergy though. I did have to take lots of antibiotics when I was younger because of sinus infection I used to develop often. They were prescribing them like candy to me. Same true for nsaids for headaches associated with them. At forty, my body started changing and slowly started developing various drug allergies.

    Now, I really don't want to take any antibiotics unless I really need to. Luckily my sinus infection days are gone now after neil meds.
    UnknownChef86
    Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:05 am
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    I'll have to look into this stuff. Sounds like it's definitely worth a try. I'll have to wait until after the first of the year, though...that's when my insurance starts over for the chiropractor visits.

    Thanks for all the helpful info...grouphug.gif
    becky1111
    Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:26 pm
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    I am on my second NAET practitioner. Could anyone tell me this. I am eager to be treated for at least the basic ten food allergies. However, the practitioner seems to spend more time balancing blockages/emotions.... It really makes me wonder if she she stalling to make money!
    Some things I react to are calcium and vitamin C. Well I am having problems with my gums/teeth. It is really are having these problems while test traets me for others things.

    Anyone know, do the treatments have to go in order?


    Appreciated!
    **Tinkerbell**
    Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:57 pm
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    Hi, Becky! icon_smile.gif

    The first 16 items do need to be treated in order. Calcium is #3 & Vitamin C is #4 so they should be early on in your treatment schedule.
    First, how far into the list did your first practitioner get? If you successfully cleared for those items with the first one, then the second one shouldn't have to re-treat for them.

    As for the "stalling to make more money" thing... I've been there too. Our second doctor had us on hundreds of dollars a week in supplements and I went with it for a couple of months but it got way too expensive & she still hadn't done any treatments for the allergies. Her reasoning just didn't make sense to me because I already knew that some of the ingredients in the supplements were things DH, myself or DD were allergic to. How much good could they really be doing?

    Our third doctor had the same reaction I did when I explained why we'd been to two doctors before her (the first wouldn't treat the baby & that's why we went in the first place).

    My suggestion is to find another doctor in your area. Balancing is important, but it can and should be done in conjunction with the treatments. It's really hard to get & stay balanced when you are constantly coming into contact with the allergen. icon_wink.gif

    I hope you find someone who will treat you properly, because this technique was, quite literally, a life saver for our baby. She is now 4 years old & can eat anything without breaking out in a nasty rash all over her face and neck. icon_biggrin.gif

    I've pretty much written our entire story in this thread already, but if you have any other questions, feel free to ask away!

    To your good health....
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    becky1111
    Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:25 am
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    My 1st practitioner never treated me for an allergy. She kept balancing me and when she told me to take her supplement with iodine, an ingredient I react to. After requesting and receiving a full refund. I move on to a more advanced practitioner and the only other in my area. She seems to treat me about every third time for an allergy. I go when I can afford it. It just seems like forever to get to being treated for vitamin C. I go tomorrow and have asked her to write down what she has treated me for this far.
    I do believe that this treatment can work. And do however wonder about legit practitioners. This far I have notice no difference in symptoms.
    **Tinkerbell**
    Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:55 pm
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    becky1111 wrote:
    My 1st practitioner never treated me for an allergy. She kept balancing me and when she told me to take her supplement with iodine, an ingredient I react to. After requesting and receiving a full refund. I move on to a more advanced practitioner and the only other in my area. She seems to treat me about every third time for an allergy. I go when I can afford it. It just seems like forever to get to being treated for vitamin C. I go tomorrow and have asked her to write down what she has treated me for this far.
    I do believe that this treatment can work. And do however wonder about legit practitioners. This far I have notice no difference in symptoms.


    You can look at one of my posts above, where I posted a photo of the treatment page my doctor uses. If your doctor doesn't use something like it, or hasn't given you a copy of it, I'd be happy to email you the page so you can keep track yourself of when & what you're treating for & when you're cleared for that allergen.

    In all honesty, most of the items we've been treated for we didn't see major changes in. But, we did see that once DD was treated for peanuts her rash went away completely. Then we did treatment for hormones and she cleared for those as well as turkey (which she was positive to previously). Our doctor said that she's seen that happen before. So, bonus is one less treatment we'll have to pay for! icon_smile.gif
    becky1111
    Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:04 pm
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    Gosh, I've been told my triggers are wheat mix, white flour, oats, sugar mix, Iodine, Nickel ( I have nickel braces). I began with very painful chronic ear infection in 2005. Now I have numerous symptoms. I got braces last year and in one month broke out with eczema on my hands and feet seem to me it's getting worse.
    It can be hard to be patient not knowing if these treatments are doing anything. If I knew they were, it would be easier.
    I am going to see my doctor in about an hour.
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