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    Ms*Bindy
    Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:25 am
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    I suspect the answer is no....otherwise you would have been cured of your allergies, and not here on this board any more, lol.


    Anyways, someone has pointed me toward NAET and I've been reading about it.

    It is mostly an eastern technique and most of the success is anecdotal.

    Now, I'm just searching around for anyone who has either done soem research about it, or has tried it.
    Mommy Needs Coffee
    Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:15 am
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    Hi! I haven't tried it, and am not familiar with it above and beyond having a very strong interest in how people deal with "allergies".

    I just wanted to point out that this does not appear to be a technique that deals with immune responses to allergens. It is one of a host of treatments that have an alternate definition of "allergies" - on the official website, they say allergies are a result of "blockages in the energy pathways". And the symptoms that are attributed to this alternate diagnosis are diverse: alcohol and drug addictions, bad breath, forgetfulness, hair loss, hemorrhoids, high blood pressure, infertility, insomnia, restless legs, yeast infection...

    It is not conventional, science-based medicine, if that's what you're looking for.

    (I am a little disturbed that it claims it can "successfully eliminate adverse reactions to egg, milk, peanuts, penicillin, aspirin, mushrooms, shellfish, latex...". To me, that pulls it out of the "mostly harmless" category of treating vague health concerns. Severe allergies can kill. If you have severe allergies to allergens, please see a board certified allergist and get an epipen. )
    Ms*Bindy
    Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:05 am
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    I'm looking beyond conventional, without a doubt icon_lol.gif

    We've been seeing a conventional allergist and ENT for many years with less than stellar success, unfortunately.

    My normal circle of acquiantances don't have a lot of experience with accupunture and homeopathic treatments....which is why I'm looking beyond my normal circle.
    Molly53
    Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:46 pm
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    I don't see why you can't combine the ideas and develop a plan that works for you, as long as your MD is aware of what it is you're doing.
    **Tinkerbell**
    Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:33 pm
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    Ms*Bindy wrote:
    I suspect the answer is no....otherwise you would have been cured of your allergies, and not here on this board any more, lol.


    Anyways, someone has pointed me toward NAET and I've been reading about it.

    It is mostly an eastern technique and most of the success is anecdotal.

    Now, I'm just searching around for anyone who has either done soem research about it, or has tried it.


    Ms. Bindy, I've been aware of NAET for over 10 years. I had several chiropractic patients using it (I was office manager in chiro/massage/acupuncture offices in Seattle & Boise for 10 years) & they highly recommended it. I didn't start getting treated until my DD was born July of 2006. She was a month preemie & I did not let her get vaccinated because of the adverse reactions I have had to the MMR. Still, she had severe allergies to foods & chemicals (most likely passed on from me & her father who is gluten intolerant.)
    She never stopped kicking her legs, hitting her ears, or crying at night when she was laying down flat. She was not colicky, as I had to go through that with my son 15 years ago. I wish I'd had NAET then. He would projectile vomit every time he ate dairy, but the doctors kept saying he couldn't possibly be allergic to it & insisted that I continue to feed it to him. (I breastfed both babies & I also was allergic to dairy as a child & until a year ago.)

    When I decided that the western doctors were not going to help my DD, she went to ENT, Neurologist & Ped before her first birthday & they all said she's fine, I looked up the NAET doctors in my area.

    We've been to 3 of them. These are the reasons for that:
    Doctor # 1 was not comfortable treating an infant. It's done through surrogate (me or daddy) & is painless. He was comfortable treating me & DH, but I was still breastfeeding & whatever I ate she got through the breastmilk & I wasn't interested in dealing with my own health problems more than getting her comfortable. Oh, & she was born with the same gluten allergy rash that DH fought for 15-20 years. They itched & broke open into sores & oozed. Nasty. I wanted that cleared up because DH could TELL me how bad it was, she couldn't communicate that & couldn't understand it either.

    Doctor #2 began treatment with a $300 a week (for all 3 of us) regimen of supplements. This would have been fine if she would have treated us for the ingredients that we were allergic to. Most capsules (Tylenol or supplements) have gluten in them. So every time they took the supps, the rash would get worse, she would cry & kick worse.

    Doctor #3 was my final straw. DH hasn't gone to her yet because he was in an accident when his truck went down a 60 foot embankment off the freeway in the ice & snow, but DD was treated for dairy, vitamin B, C, D & E, all trace minerals, grains, turkey, egg, nuts & fish allergies (which runs severe in my family). She hasn't had a rash in 6 months, she sleeps at night & can lay still while nursing or in bed sleeping. With each treatment we noticed a difference in her paterns. The hardest part is avoiding the substance you are being treated for. This requires 25 hours of avoidance. For me, it required 25 hours BEFORE treatment as well, that way she wouldn't get that irritant through my breastmilk.
    She still has to be treated for hormones, which I am going to make the appointment for next week (right now we are snowed in & have only my convertible since DH's accident). I know she is allergic to hormones because now that the rest of the irritants are cleared, we notice that one to two days before my period starts & then for the first 2 days of it, she doesn't sleep, crys & is inconsolable.

    The technique works on allergies that are associated with both physical & psychological reactions. Sometimes our bodies will react negatively to a substance that it sees as a threat, even though it's harmless or even healthy for us. Many different reasons for this reaction. In my case it was vaccinations which triggered Asthma, Seizures, Graves' Disease, Chemical sensitivity, Fibromyalgia & Chronic Fatigue. It's also possible to have a food that somehow gets associated with a tragic event that our mind or body will react negatively to after that.
    Get a copy of Dr. Desi Nambudripad's book, "Say Goodbye to Illness" & in it she explains the technique, how it works & examples. She was a chiropractor who developed this technique because her own child was miserable & no one seemed able to help. Also, most people don't know this, but a chiropractor actually is required to study more hours in school than an MD is. Their CE requirements are also substantial. They learn how to birth babies & do pelvic exams even though as a chiropractor those are things they'd never be doing in their practice.

    The basis for NAET is re-training our body to react appropriately to the things it sees as a threat. The "information" travels through the body, just like blood & oxygen does, along the energy or meridian (as identified in Eastern medicine) pathways. It takes 25 hours for the energy to circulate once completely through the body. That's why we avoid the allergen for 25 hours.

    I have been treating along with DD, although not as often, since sometimes whatever she's being treated for left slim options for food, I had to not be treated or else I would be starving myself. Since getting treatment I have been able to walk the mall for more than 20 minutes, I have been able to do very minimal (but a lot more than before) exercises, we go to playgroup twice a week & are quite active at the toddler gym for an hour or more each time, take the family to the zoo, & I have been able to do more housework & cooking (which I love) without having to spend two days in bed after just one of these activities, as before.

    After spending years getting to know patients, their problems, & having so many of my own, I know without a doubt that everyone does not respond to the same treatments in the same way. We all have to keep looking until we find the one that works for us. This isn't easy. I've been searching for 20 years to find some long-term relief that doesn't involve a life-long addiction to anti-depressants & narcotics. I can't say that NAET will cure the seizures or the Graves' disease, but I have felt relief that no one has ever been able to give me before. I still have a lot more treatment to get for myself, but like I said, my first concern was DH & DD.

    I suggest finding a doctor who is also a practicing chiropractor. Most insurance companies will cover your visits (up to whatever your plan's max is for chiro) when billed by the chiropractor. Doing this will give you some time to test run the technique without having to put out a lot of money. Our second doctor was not a chiro first & that's why she was not covered & extremely expensive.

    If you have any questions, please feel free to zmail me.
    I hope this helps you on your search for good health. It's been a major step towards mine & that of my family.
    Lori
    Ms*Bindy
    Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:26 pm
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    Thanks so much Lori. I am currently reading Say Goodbye to Illness. A few nights ago, we tried the MRT allergy test on my daughter with one of her known allergans. DH could really feel the difference in her muscle strength....cool!

    I may very well z-mail you as I read more through the book and digest it. I have looked up via my insurance, and there is one chiropracter in my network who is trained in NAET.

    To be honest, even if it weren't covered, and it worked, I would consider it an investment in her health. She's about to have sinus surgery and both her allergist and ENT have said she really needs to get the allergies under control. They've suggested Xolair, but I'm not happy with the potential dangers of that medication, and the cost (even with insurance) is more than $10,000/year! As you can well imagine, I would be thrilled to find a treatment like NAET if it worked.

    And congratulations on your own success with the treatment. I'm sure that is a wonderful relief and joy to see your child not to have to endure the pain.
    **Tinkerbell**
    Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:47 pm
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    I hate the drugs too. Sometimes when I refuse to take what the doctors want to give (usually just to get rid of me), they get upset. I have to tell them that I've been living in chronic pain since age 11 (I'm 38 now) & I know how to live with it & the other problems I have. I do not know how to live with, nor have the desire to figure out how to live with, all the new problems that arise due to side effects of the drugs. Sometimes the cure is worse than the symptom.

    Just 6 months before we had our first NAET treatment my son had his adnoids removed. The allergy improved only slightly. The ENT tested him for "allergens" with the prick tests but then turned around & said that the reactions were slight, so that couldn't be the problem. Well, I've lived with allergies of animals, chemicals & foods for long enough to know when he's reacting to the friend's pets or after he's eaten dairy. I wish we'd found NAET before we consented to the surgery. My dad's on his 3rd sinus surgery but he's 75 years old & I'm not going to get him to try some "new fangled" doctor. lol
    Feel free to ask anything that comes up. You are really pro-active about getting help; reading the book, checking insurance parameters, & that is so great.
    Lori
    Chef #759246
    Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:54 pm
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    I've just started NAET treatments and I'm really happy with it so far. I found out that in addition to a number of allergens I had a tested positive for Seratonin and Acetycholine, which would explain my sleep and memory issues. I've already been treated for this and find I'm waking up in the morning feeling rested, which has never happened for as long as I can remember (memory doesn't affect what I've endured!). I feel more energetic and can think clearly and I look forward to going to bed now!!
    I first look into it because of my acne and skin issues. At the age of 40 I feel like I've tried all the products out there that claim to treat this problem so I started looking within, and I'm glad I did.
    Instead of treating the symptoms, I wanted to find the real reasons. It's frustrating going to doctors to only leave feeling like it's in your head as well.
    So refeshing to hear you found the same results. I just hope others will open their mind to the available alternatives rather than more prescription drugs.

    Cheers,
    **Tinkerbell**
    Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:17 pm
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    I'm so happy for you Chef! It's too bad we've had to wait til our 30's & 40's before we've found help. But hopefully the pain we've been through will encourage others (as well as our children) to be more pro-active with their health instead of taking everything one medical doctor tells them as the last word. My DD was also allergic to anything with alcohol in it. That was everything from foods to shampoo & baby soaps. That was another rough couple of days. The worst though was the treatment for minerals. I had to wear gloves for 3 days straight & couldn't come into contact with water or metals, such as buttons, zippers, faucets, whatever. I totally looked like a dork going to the mall (had to for a birthday gift for a friend's DD) wearing gloves so I wouldn't touch my car handles, clothing racks or the door handles of the mall entrance. It's funny now. icon_lol.gif

    Cheers to you!
    Lori
    Chef #776050
    Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:20 pm
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    I tried NAET several years ago, hoping to rid myself of cat allergies. Could be the practitioner, but it was an awful experience.

    The practitioner seemed to use different amounts of force to push down my arm to get results and then, if something didn't come out as expected, would say things like, "Hmm...you have a double negative positive result."

    Anyway, I was SO careful about avoiding allergens, even when I had to fast all day, and nothing changed.

    A friend of mine also tried NAET with a different practioner and also didn't get better.

    Perhaps NAET is a largely psychological response and if people believe in it strongly enough, it can act as a placebo.
    Hey There
    Fri May 22, 2009 2:43 pm
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    Ms Bindy -

    I'm so glad you have received some positive response to your question.

    I can't promote NAET enough. It has changed my life. I have had about 60 NAET treatments for all sorts of things, foods, environmental elements, and things my body produces, like adrenalyn and hormones, even the color black and radiation (that comes from the sun and my computer monitor!)

    Before the treatments I had a lot of skin reactions including flushing of the face. Also I would feel dizzy a lot and light headed and my brain would be cloudy from the effects of the allergens. There were many other lessor symptoms.

    Previously I had to avoid eating many foods, which now I am able to eat without reaction. The treatments have improved my lightheadedness and my skin dramatically. I eat and do things I had to avoid before and yet many many reactions are gone entirely or reduced greatly.

    I have the utmost respect for Dr. Devi Nambudripad and NAET. I have heard that NAET does not work for some people and I don't have any answer as to why that is. But I certainly do not think that it has anything to do with whether or not you believe in NAET. This is not just a placebo. It actually does rearrange your energy and unblock your energy.

    Also you should look into EFT- Emotional Freedom Technique. That is also recognized to cure allergies (as well as emotional issues) also by rearranging your energy and breaking up energy blockages. EFT has changed the personality of a friend of mine. She was previously timid from abuse as a child but now she is much stronger and emotionally confident. She swears by it.

    EFT has a website and you can practice EFT by yourself for no cost and get excellent results. I would still go to NAET too, as it is well worth the money I have spent and like you said, it is an investment in your health.

    Bev
    TooAllergic
    Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:21 pm
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    Something to add--
    I was just checking in to this forum--it used to be a regular stop--until I was cured of all allergies.

    I'll TRY to keep my story semi-short.

    I suffered from adult on-set allergies at 24 or 25 years old: dairy, wheat, soy, corn, melon/banana/avocado, white fish, cashews and peanuts. I had to carry 2 epi-pens. I experienced violent reactions--even to peanut dust in the air--or peanut butter on my skin. 7 years of allergists who had no solution. I would get horribly sick--the allergies would change--I'd react to things that would go undiagnosed. I was a chef and fitness trainer who couldn't work out of fear of a deadly reaction to food or exercise-induced anaphylaxis.

    After moving to New Mexico I started seeing a Dr. of Oriental Medicine. She treated me with accupuncture, accupressure, and a strict diet. She explained that the allergies were harming my digestive system--in effect-my immune system began to attack things at random--food, my organs, my muscles etc. We used things like garlic and coconut oil to kill inflammations in my intestines. . . Cinnamon and cayenne to regulate my blood sugar. . . Also fennel seed and shitake mushroom. No other mushrooms were allowed. No vinegar either. And absolutely no sugar (not even a green bean). I spent time each day pushing on random places on my arms and legs. I learned Yoga (other exercises were still too strenuous and could induce a reaction). I ate lean protein (bison, chicken, egg whites and broth) and dark greens (kale, collards, spinach, mustard greens, broccoli, cauliflower) for a few months and then added in grains like Quinoa. No flour or sugar was allowed--but Ezekiel bread and sprouted grains were good. Then I could add certain legumes. Eventually I added unsweetened greek yogurt and berries. Then other veggies and fruits. We continued the accupuncture for about 6 months.

    Within 7 months all signs of allergies were gone. Now I eat normally--though I try not to eat trigger foods too often (I try not to ever eat them 2 days in a row--though it does happen). These include nuts and dairy and wheat and corn (for me). So If I have a grilled cheese sandwich today--I will have ice cream too--and then tomorrow will be no dairy or bread--but maybe homemade corn tortillas, corn flakes with almond milk etc...

    My Dr. didn't call my treatment anything special. She just focused on my body and fixed it. Amazing. My husband cried and hugged her and thanked her for giving him his wife back. icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif
    **Tinkerbell**
    Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:49 pm
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    I thought I'd pop in again with the most recent update. After some additional NAET treatments for DD (she'll be 3 in July) she has been cleared of the hormones (she can now eat turkey) & most importantly, the peanut allergies. I cannot even tell you how happy our family was when she ate her first PB&J sammy without getting a rash over her entire mouth, nose & bum areas. She's been eating them ever since & without incident. Next we'll move on to the fish & shellfish allergies. icon_biggrin.gif
    *Tink
    Chef #1332555
    Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:20 pm
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    hello,
    thank you so much for your informative posts!
    I just started NAET last Friday, and was treated for the egg mix. this Friday I will be treated for the Calcuim mix (which I tested weak for as well).
    my quesiton is.
    How do you prepare for what to eat for the 25 hours after the treatment?
    ie. for the calcuim mix, I can't eat or touch milk products, raw veg, dark leafy veg, oats, beans, soy, almonds, sardines, peanuts, etc.
    can eat: rice, pasta, cooked veg, potatotes, corn, yams, red meat.
    but even if I want to eat bread, I just looked at the loaf of bread in my fridge and it contains soy and oats.
    If I want to buy a loaf of bread I will have to do so before my treatment, since I can't go to the grocery store after my treatment and handle the loaves of bread looking for something with none of the off-limit foods. hmmm.
    I'm getting quite anxious about this.

    for instance, for breakfast:
    I guess I could have cooked rice with rice milk and raisins. doesn't say if I can have eggs?
    I don't eat red meat, and when I asked the acupuncturist (who also does NAET) about beans, he said it is ok if there is no calcium mentioned on the can. (but it says in the notes no dried beans or navy beans) but I'm assuming people would not eat them uncooked.

    can I eat, eggs? tuna? chicken? it doesn't say?
    (these notes are from The Companion to "Say good-bye to Illness" that he photo-copies for his patients.

    he seems rather blase about it all, and makes it sound like it is so easy. and I am so stressed out about this!!!

    I have fibromyalgia and some depression and anxiety and really want to give the NAET a good try.

    Do you have any sample meal ideas for each of the first 15 mixes that are commen allergens?

    sorry to ramble on, I do appreciate any input you have please.
    thank you so much. and again thank you for your informative and thoughtful posts. and good luck to you and your family.
    **Tinkerbell**
    Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:04 am
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    [quote="Chef #1332555"]hello,
    thank you so much for your informative posts!
    I just started NAET last Friday, and was treated for the egg mix. this Friday I will be treated for the Calcuim mix (which I tested weak for as well).
    my quesiton is.
    How do you prepare for what to eat for the 25 hours after the treatment?
    ie. for the calcuim mix, I can't eat or touch milk products, raw veg, dark leafy veg, oats, beans, soy, almonds, sardines, peanuts, etc.
    can eat: rice, pasta, cooked veg, potatotes, corn, yams, red meat.
    but even if I want to eat bread, I just looked at the loaf of bread in my fridge and it contains soy and oats.
    If I want to buy a loaf of bread I will have to do so before my treatment, since I can't go to the grocery store after my treatment and handle the loaves of bread looking for something with none of the off-limit foods. hmmm.
    I'm getting quite anxious about this.

    for instance, for breakfast:
    I guess I could have cooked rice with rice milk and raisins. doesn't say if I can have eggs?
    I don't eat red meat, and when I asked the acupuncturist (who also does NAET) about beans, he said it is ok if there is no calcium mentioned on the can. (but it says in the notes no dried beans or navy beans) but I'm assuming people would not eat them uncooked.

    can I eat, eggs? tuna? chicken? it doesn't say?
    (these notes are from The Companion to "Say good-bye to Illness" that he photo-copies for his patients.

    he seems rather blase about it all, and makes it sound like it is so easy. and I am so stressed out about this!!!

    I have fibromyalgia and some depression and anxiety and really want to give the NAET a good try.

    Do you have any sample meal ideas for each of the first 15 mixes that are commen allergens?

    sorry to ramble on, I do appreciate any input you have please.
    thank you so much. and again thank you for your informative and thoughtful posts. and good luck to you and your family.[/quote]

    Hi chef! wave.gif
    I understand what you're going through (fibro included) & I know that the first few treatments feel about as close to torture as possible, but you can do it. I promise. It's not easy, especially when we still have to feed our families who aren't being treated for the same thing or anything at all. I found it the most difficult when I was nursing my daughter, as we were being treated for two different things so I had to avoid her stuff for 25 hours before treatment as well as both of our stuff for 25 hours afterward. icon_eek.gif I literally survived on tater tots from Sonic, black coffee & plain rice.

    I too found a couple of the doctors we saw/see that seemed really blase about all of it. But once you get the first few treatments in it gets much easier to plan & the 25 hours seems to go by pretty quickly.

    One of the tricks I learned was to have our treatments after lunch so that I could eat a big one & only had to worry about dinner & I would make extra portions of that dinner so I could eat it later for a snack or in the morning for breakfast.

    Meal planning was usually pretty easy if I just moved items that I wasn't supposed to touch to the back of the fridge or pantry & moved the ingredients that I would be eating after treatment to the front. And I avoided as many boxed/canned foods as possible so I didn't have to read all the multiple names for each ingredient.

    For your calcium treatment you won't be able to have egg or chicken so for dinner I would plan on steamed white rice stir fried with a small amount of olive oil with mushrooms, green peppers & corn. For breakfast I would eat fresh peaches or nectarines. I would avoid the breads as most, even wheat, will contain some form of calcium.

    If you have any other questions or just need to vent about being deprived of your favorite food, I'll be here! icon_smile.gif
    Hang in there!
    *Tink

    Below is the information for milk/calcium mix our doctor uses & I found it as well as all the others on the web here: http://www.stalbertacupuncture.ca/download/files/NAET%20Treatment%20Guidelines.pdf


    2. Milk/CALCIUM MIX: (Calcium-Carbonate, Calcium-Gluconate, Calcium-Ascorbate, Cow's milk, goat's milk, milk casein,
    milk-albumin).
    YOU MAY NOT EAT OR TOUCH: milk or milk products, eggs, chicken, uncooked vegetables, dark leafy vegetables
    like lettuce, cabbage, dandelion greens, Brussels sprouts, broccoli, sesame seeds, oats, navy beans, cheese, soybeans,
    almonds, dried beans, walnuts, fish, peanuts, and sunflower seeds, calcium supplements, figs, papaya, berries, rhubarb,
    tomatoes, prunes
    YOU MAY EAT: cooked rice, pasta, cooked vegetables (potato, corn, yams, cauliflower, sweet potato, green pepper,
    mushrooms), red meat, olive oil, peaches, nectarines, and coffee and tea without milk. Contact with calcium- free
    (distilled) water only. Any food without calcium derivatives.
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