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    Dried Beans ? Again!!!!!

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    Kit^..^ty Of Canada
    Thu May 12, 2005 9:00 am
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    Took out a book from the library. "The Best Slow Cooker Cookbook Ever" By Natalie Haughton.

    Several recipes I would like to try.

    Recipes states: Mix together dried white/red beans, hot water, tomatoes plus spices. Cook on high in slow cooker for 1hr. reduce to low & cook for 8hrs.

    Now you have all told me that "Do not add tomatoes till beans are cooked because the beans will stop cooking when tomatoes are added"

    So why does cookbook say to do this????

    Kitty
    evelyn/athens
    Thu May 12, 2005 3:04 pm
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    I don't know where I heard it, but I do know it was from someone/somewhere reliable, that this (not adding tomato or salt) to beans is a myth.

    Of course, I do not want to instigate your next recipe disaster! icon_wink.gif icon_confused.gif icon_lol.gif
    Kit^..^ty Of Canada
    Tue May 17, 2005 7:36 pm
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    Evelyn/athens, gain I am sorry for taking so long to get back to you!

    So beans & tomatoes are a myth! Well that takes care of that problem. icon_biggrin.gif

    Well, you did a good job of fixing my last recipe disaster! I will let you know if I have any problem with this one.

    I can't see that happening with total 9hrs. in the crockpot.

    Thanks

    Kitty
    Mirj
    Tue May 17, 2005 11:39 pm
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    evelyn/athens wrote:
    I don't know where I heard it, but I do know it was from someone/somewhere reliable, that this (not adding tomato or salt) to beans is a myth.


    I've heard about the no salt with beans thingy from several sources, but have never heard about the tomatoes.
    Kit^..^ty Of Canada
    Wed May 18, 2005 6:51 am
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    Mirj wrote:
    evelyn/athens wrote:
    I don't know where I heard it, but I do know it was from someone/somewhere reliable, that this (not adding tomato or salt) to beans is a myth.


    I've heard about the no salt with beans thingy from several sources, but have never heard about the tomatoes.


    I learned here on Zaars that tomatoes stop the beans from cooking. Now of course if I read it on Zaars it must be a fact. icon_lol.gif

    Now Evelyn states this is a myth. Which would make sense as the cookbook from library states to cook them together & agrees with Evelyn. Salt I do not use because of diet requirements.
    evelyn/athens
    Wed May 18, 2005 3:42 pm
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    Found this so we can put this baby to rest!

    Myths about dried beans
    kitchen myth cooking urban legend

    There are three "facts" you'll often hear about cooking dried beans, such as kidney and great northern beans. It turns out they are all myths.

    1. You must soak beans before cooking. You can soak beans of course but the only advantage it provides is to shorten the cooking time. There's no reason not to start cooking dry beans directly as long as you have the time to simmer them long enough.
    2. You must not add salt to beans during cooking or they will not soften. Tests show that the only difference between beans cooked side by side with and without salt is that one is salty and the other is not. Some people feel that salting during cooking gives better flavor because some of the salt ends up inside the beans.
    3. You must not add acid, such as tomatoes, to beans during cooking or they will not soften. Acid does in fact have an effect on beans, tending to keep the skins intact, while alkaline substances (baking soda) help the skins to break down. In both cases however the beans cook perfectly well. You can use this to your advantage, adding tomatoes during or after cooking depending on whether you want whole beans or mushy beans.

    Source: How to Cook Everything by Mark Bittman, Macmillan, 1998.
    Kit^..^ty Of Canada
    Wed May 18, 2005 4:18 pm
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    Thank you Evelyn/athens! Keep that handy as this topic comes up often!

    In fact it has come up so many times it might just require a sticky. icon_lol.gif

    Kitty
    Debra1113
    Mon May 23, 2005 12:46 am
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    Thanks Evelyn, that's great info!

    So I have a question then, having never used dried beans and always canned: If you don't have to soak dried beans first as long as the cook time is long enough in a recipe, why do crockpot chili's always called for canned beans? Can I substitute dried kidney beans in my crockpot chili instead of the canned and still get similar results?

    Okay, actually I have 2 questions, here's a second one: Do dried beans have the same nutritional value as canned?

    Thanks guys, this is a great thread. I've only been on zaar for a month so this is new to me. icon_biggrin.gif

    Debra
    evelyn/athens
    Mon May 23, 2005 7:35 am
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    LatteLover wrote:
    Thanks Evelyn, that's great info!

    So I have a question then, having never used dried beans and always canned: If you don't have to soak dried beans first as long as the cook time is long enough in a recipe, why do crockpot chili's always called for canned beans? Can I substitute dried kidney beans in my crockpot chili instead of the canned and still get similar results?

    Okay, actually I have 2 questions, here's a second one: Do dried beans have the same nutritional value as canned?

    Thanks guys, this is a great thread. I've only been on zaar for a month so this is new to me. icon_biggrin.gif

    Debra


    Those are good questions and I wish I were enough of a bean expert to answer them.

    I only ever use dried beans, but I do always pre-cook them in my pressure cooker - I do this as a time-saver more than anything else. So they go into my crockpot fully (or nearly fully) cooked when I make a baked bean recipe.

    As for nutritional value. Logic tells me that there should be no difference between using dried beans and cooking them yourself and using canned beans (as they are cooked and processed in their cooking liquid)...perhaps someone out there in the bean world can answer?

    I did find another good article though:

    http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/195-04072005-473110.html
    Kit^..^ty Of Canada
    Mon May 23, 2005 10:06 pm
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    Being no expert. I do not like the canned beans because of the salt. Also the dried beans are so cheap!

    Kitty
    Picholine
    Tue May 24, 2005 1:43 pm
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    I really appreciate this information because my husband is a bean lover and I am always afraid of cooking them from scratch (I'm also afraid of our pressure cooker!). Perhaps someone should start a thread called "cooking phobias" icon_lol.gif
    evelyn/athens
    Tue May 24, 2005 3:24 pm
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    Picholine wrote:
    I really appreciate this information because my husband is a bean lover and I am always afraid of cooking them from scratch (I'm also afraid of our pressure cooker!). Perhaps someone should start a thread called "cooking phobias" icon_lol.gif


    Funny, I use my pressure cooker atleast 3 times a week...it's such a time-saver. Mom always used hers so I guess it's just something I'm used to. It's a great bean-cooker. icon_lol.gif
    Kit^..^ty Of Canada
    Tue May 24, 2005 3:36 pm
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    I am scared of the pressure cooker! think it might blow up. See your friend Mirj is missing in action! icon_twisted.gif

    No really I am sorry about Mirj icon_wink.gif

    Kitty
    Debra1113
    Tue May 24, 2005 8:59 pm
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    Hopefully there are other ways besides a pressure cooker to do beans?? I hate to verify everyone's fears, but a pressure cooker did blow up on me before... Was my own stupid fault, went to open it without releasing the pressure first (forgot!). Never touched one since. Lid hit the ceiling, boiling water flew all over my face. Scared my hubby and me almost to death... Luckily no serious injuries, my hubby reacted amazingly fast and put solarcaine (sp?) all over my face for like an hour. BEWARE of those things!!

    ACK! I'm scared just talking about them...

    Maybe we should have a forum for phobias! icon_lol.gif

    Debra
    Debra1113
    Wed May 25, 2005 12:27 am
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    Kit^..^ty Of Canada wrote:
    I am scared of the pressure cooker! think it might blow up. See your friend Mirj is missing in action! icon_twisted.gif

    No really I am sorry about Mirj icon_wink.gif

    Kitty


    What happened to Mirj?

    Debra
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