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    Fellow Sleevers!

    quietcougar
    Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:32 pm
    Newbie "Fry Cook" Poster
    Hi! My name is Scott, and last May, I had a Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy. For those unfamiliar with this surgery, it is a procedure where approximately 2/3 of the stomach is removed, and the remaining "pouch" is shaped like a bannana with a pouch at the bottom that can hold about a cup of food per meal.

    Before surgery, my weight was 340. Now, 8 months later, I weigh 210. I feel great, but it's a tough journey. My meals are very small now, and I have to focus on protein first (think modified Atkins diet) for life. But I wouldn't change it!

    Since I still love food, and they operated on my stomach and not my head, I've had to adapt recipies that I've loved over the years to be "pouch friendly". It's my goal to share some of those recipes with you, as I'm certain there are others of us out there who had this surgery. In fact, I'd like to see food.com start a special section for us, since this surgery is rapidly becoming popular.

    So, fellow sleevers - do you have any good recipes you'd like to share? Your experience with the sleeve? Your favorite animal? Seriously, I'm up for conversation.
    ~Laury~
    Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:03 pm
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    quietcougar. I don't know anything about Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy. I will do some research and come back with ideas.
    Please be patient because researching can be done right away but finding the recipes might take a little longer.
    ~Laury~
    Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:20 pm
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    I have done some research and it might not be as common as you seem to believe it is. I am quoting from
    http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/vsg/about_vertical_sleeve_gastrectomy.html
    The Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy procedure (also called Sleeve Gastrectomy, Vertical Gastrectomy, Greater Curvature Gastrectomy, Parietal Gastrectomy, Gastric Reduction, Logitudinal Gastrectomy and even Vertical Gastroplasty) is performed by approximately 20 surgeons worldwide

    There are people here who have had lap-band surgery. It is possible they have some ideas about how to eat and make sure you get enough protein.

    Until somebody else comes along, and can help you more,
    this site might help you.
    http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/vsg/
    quietcougar
    Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:34 pm
    Newbie "Fry Cook" Poster
    Hi, Laury. There are 3 common types of weight loss surgery - VSG, or Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy; Roux-n-Y, and, less commonly, the duodenal switch.

    In the vertical sleeve patient, the stomach volume is physically reduced so food quantities are very small (approx. 1 cup of food per meal). Because of the nature of the surgery, patients must follow a high protein diet; meals begin with the protein source, moving to vegetables, and last, carbohydrates like potatoes or rice. The pouch that is created is unable to absorb certain nutrients, notably B12, and patients are on supplements for life. Also, stomach acid production is greatly reduced.

    Although in theory sleeve patients can eat anything, certain foods should be avoided. For example, coconut, fibrous vegetables like raw celery, and any carbonated beverages. Refined flours, sugar, candies, etc. are also discouraged. So in other words, yes, I can eat a Dunkin' Donut - but I shouldn't.

    Roux-n-Y patients are different; they can't eat sugar after surgery because of dumping syndrome. Their stomachs are intact, but sewn in half to reduce volume. Roux-n-Y is reversable.

    VSG is permanent; the stomach is removed and cannot be put back. For the rest of my life, I'll eat like a child. Fish is better tolerated than fibrous meat like steak, chicken is good, and crunchy texture is well tolerated in most sleeve patients. We need a lot of protein - about 80 grams per day for men, 60-70 grams a day for women. It doesn't sound like a lot, but with such a tiny stomach it can be difficult, especially early on out of surgery, to get that much in. I still struggle with it sometimes, even 8 months out.
    quietcougar
    Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:42 pm
    Newbie "Fry Cook" Poster
    Hi Laury - it's indeed true that few surgeons perform this surgery; typically the Roux-n-Y is more common, or as you mention, the Lap Band. With any procedure, the idea is the same - reduce the amount the stomach can physically hold.

    Personally, I chose VSG over Roux-n-Y because I didn't like the idea of my plumbing being rerouted. Also, there are other side effects I didn't like.

    That having been said, I'm a frequent flyer on most of the obesity forums; both before and after my surgery. I've got a couple of cookbooks at home that are for people who've had surgery, but I was just curious if anyone else had any other recipes. Thanks for your post!
    ~Laury~
    Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:05 pm
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    One of the co-hosts for this forum, Jacqueline, has had lap band surgery, I believe. She might have some recipes she can suggest.
    Jacqueline in KY
    Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:49 pm
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    quietcougar, I have have both lap band and later revised to the RNY, you made a major error in describing RNY only about 30% of the patients dump on sugar. I do not unless it is combined with a lot of fat. Doctors and weight loss centers want you to believe that everyone dumps but it is not true, that is the beauty of the surgery or at least that is what some doctor's play to. I wanted to dump because sweets were my down fall, but nope I don't, still wish that I did, but I was two years out on the 25th.

    You also made the statement that your stomach would stay small like that, you do know you can stretch it back out don't you, if you are not careful?

    I don't have any special recipes that I eat because I can eat anything now. I know lots of folks that have the sleeve and have never had any tell me they had problems with many foods, such as celery, etc. but they were further out than you are.

    I agree with you on a forum for weight loss surgery because there are many of us on this site, but I don't think it will ever happen.

    Glad to have you visit us and I will help you in any way I can but honestly I was told to limit my carbs to 50 or less a day, fat to 27-33 g a day and at least 75 protein, the classes I took before my surgery were for RNY, sleeve and band patients and all the books I have read the dietary requirements are the same for all. Yes, I know that sleeve and lapband don't have to take all the vitamins that a gastric by-pass/RNY patient does, but they are now finding that sleeve patients are starting to show deficiencies too and may need to take them like the RNY patient, so be sure and watch your labs.
    quietcougar
    Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:26 am
    Newbie "Fry Cook" Poster
    Jacqueline in KY wrote:
    quietcougar, I have have both lap band and later revised to the RNY, you made a major error in describing RNY only about 30% of the patients dump on sugar. I do not unless it is combined with a lot of fat. Doctors and weight loss centers want you to believe that everyone dumps but it is not true, that is the beauty of the surgery or at least that is what some doctor's play to. I wanted to dump because sweets were my down fall, but nope I don't, still wish that I did, but I was two years out on the 25th.

    You also made the statement that your stomach would stay small like that, you do know you can stretch it back out don't you, if you are not careful?

    I don't have any special recipes that I eat because I can eat anything now. I know lots of folks that have the sleeve and have never had any tell me they had problems with many foods, such as celery, etc. but they were further out than you are.

    I agree with you on a forum for weight loss surgery because there are many of us on this site, but I don't think it will ever happen.

    Glad to have you visit us and I will help you in any way I can but honestly I was told to limit my carbs to 50 or less a day, fat to 27-33 g a day and at least 75 protein, the classes I took before my surgery were for RNY, sleeve and band patients and all the books I have read the dietary requirements are the same for all. Yes, I know that sleeve and lapband don't have to take all the vitamins that a gastric by-pass/RNY patient does, but they are now finding that sleeve patients are starting to show deficiencies too and may need to take them like the RNY patient, so be sure and watch your labs.


    Hi, Jacqueline. I did realize that not everyone who has a RNY dumps, but I didn't know the percentage was so low. My problem wasn't any one food - I was never a big sweets fan, but I loved pasta and rice and could easily pack a lot of that away.

    It's true that my pouch can (and to a certain extent, should) stretch some. However, I do know that it will never stretch to it's former size (which is a good thing), but I can easily defeat the surgery by just horking down ice cream and candy bars because I don't dump either. But then why did I go through all this? I don't want to be big like I was ever again.

    As for vitamins, I take B-complex, B-12, calcium, and a multivitamin. I like those Sobe 0 calorie waters that have a lot of vitamins in them, so I get quite a bit of supplements. So far, fingers crossed, my labs have been pretty good.

    I can also eat anything, but average about 600-800 calories a day. I can eat carbs, but they seem to not keep me full long, just like they said would happen. Protein keeps me full for a couple of hours, depending. I can eat 2 chicken legs and a tiny portion of rice in one meal.
    Jacqueline in KY
    Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:06 am
    Food.com Groupie
    I did not know it would never stretch to the size it was, I hope that is true with RNY, also. Although after two years I still can't eat much unless it is junk. Yeah, carbs don't keep you full long but if you think about it they didn't before surgery either. Right now I am trying to just maintain. I had rotator cuff surgery on the 11th of January and can't do much exercise, I'll be happy to not gain any weight during this time, so far I have been successful at it but I have another 5 weeks in the recliner.

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